Sequences and Timers

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  • #322
     SimonCatlin says:

    SimonCatlin
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    Hello, and apologies for a newbie question.

    I am using an the Apple interface and the Wi-Fi, along with several units (2 dimmer adpators, 1 light single and one socket still to be installed).

    In the hall I have a lamp that I wish to turn on 30 minutes before dusk. To do this I created a Sequence called "Hall On Sec", which just turns on the lamp. I then setup a timer called "Hall on Secu" which is set to run sequence "Hall on Sec", every day, for ever, 30 minutes before dusk.

    I now want to turn the hall light off between 23:00 and 23:59 randomly. I have created a sequence called "Hall Off Sec", but there is no "between time" option. I have to set the timer at a specific Time.

    I then had the thought of creating a "Hall On, Hall Off" sequence, but this gives me another issue. I can specify the Timer to start at "Dusk-30", but then I have to set a random time in the future for the "Hall Off". This would not work as the "Hall Off" part would be random in the future, not between 23:00-23:59. This would also create the issue of Winter vs Summer and the amount of time to be left on.

    My last idea is to create two sequences and two timers:
    Seq 1: Hall On
    Tim1: Dusk – 30 mins

    Seq 2: Hall On : Random 1hr : Hall Off :
    Tim2: Start at 23:00

    Will this work? With the on being sent to an already on device?

    Is there a possibility of adding the functionality of Random Between Times" on the timers?

    Thanks
    Simon

    2 WiFi, 2 sockets, 11 light switches (7 single, 4 double), 2 mood controllers, 1 double wire free switch, 6 plug in on/off, 3 plug in dimmer, 2 PIR, 2 LED, 1 300W Inline relay, 2 signal booster, 1 Energy Monitor and 1 very patient wife. Also Heatmiser's Neo, Ring Bell, Ring Camera, Nest Protect, Canary...
    #936
     SimonCatlin says:

    SimonCatlin
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    [snip]
    My last idea is to create two sequences and two timers:
    Seq 1: Hall On
    Tim1: Dusk – 30 mins

    Seq 2: Hall On : Random 1hr : Hall Off :
    Tim2: Start at 23:00

    [/snip]
    I tried this and the light did not turn off between 23:00 and 23:59.

    Any ideas?
    Thanks

    2 WiFi, 2 sockets, 11 light switches (7 single, 4 double), 2 mood controllers, 1 double wire free switch, 6 plug in on/off, 3 plug in dimmer, 2 PIR, 2 LED, 1 300W Inline relay, 2 signal booster, 1 Energy Monitor and 1 very patient wife. Also Heatmiser's Neo, Ring Bell, Ring Camera, Nest Protect, Canary...
    #938
     john says:

    john
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    the sequence you are suggesting should work, the spurious "on" command is just ignored, unless the light has been turned "off" by some other method.

    Your other comments have been noted and passed to the development team.

    thank you for your constructive comments

    john

    #939
     SimonCatlin says:

    SimonCatlin
    Participant

    Thanks for the response.

    I have done many tests this evening and cannot get the timers to work. The sequences do work, including the random delay:

    Seq 1: Hall On
    Tim1: Dusk – 30 mins

    Seq 2: Hall On : Random 1hr : Hall Off :
    Tim2: Start at 23:00

    Tim1: failed
    Tim2: failed
    The instructions have been followed, including point 9, where it states a sequence with a timer must be run for the timer to work (why?).

    I have uploaded the sequences and timers up to the server so that an iPod and iPhone can both use it, so I know they are on the Wi-Fi box.

    Is there an issue with Timers or have I made an error on the programming?

    Regards
    Simon

    2 WiFi, 2 sockets, 11 light switches (7 single, 4 double), 2 mood controllers, 1 double wire free switch, 6 plug in on/off, 3 plug in dimmer, 2 PIR, 2 LED, 1 300W Inline relay, 2 signal booster, 1 Energy Monitor and 1 very patient wife. Also Heatmiser's Neo, Ring Bell, Ring Camera, Nest Protect, Canary...
    #941
     SimonCatlin says:

    SimonCatlin
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    Further to my previous messages. I have checked the viewing panel on the WiFi unit when the handsets send their "instructions".
    For all ON, OFF, SET LIGHT LEVEL and SEQUENCE, the display shows the wording concisely in what it is doing.

    However, the Wifi shows an interesting descrition when sending a Timer to it.

    558, !FiP"T201106
    >>>>>>><<<<<<<<

    No Timer has worked yet.

    I now have proof that the instructiosn are getting to the WiFi unit, but nothing ever gets triggered.

    Is there an issue with the WiFi unit? Does the WiFi unit have the ability to be firmware updated should there be the need to?

    Apologies for the consistant messages, but the reaosn I bought the system was to allow the house to look lived in, even if it is empty.

    Thanks in advance.
    Simon

    2 WiFi, 2 sockets, 11 light switches (7 single, 4 double), 2 mood controllers, 1 double wire free switch, 6 plug in on/off, 3 plug in dimmer, 2 PIR, 2 LED, 1 300W Inline relay, 2 signal booster, 1 Energy Monitor and 1 very patient wife. Also Heatmiser's Neo, Ring Bell, Ring Camera, Nest Protect, Canary...
    #944
     SimonCatlin says:

    SimonCatlin
    Participant

    This has been fixed by a complete reset of all devices and WiFi unit. Now working as required for 2 days successfully.

    2 WiFi, 2 sockets, 11 light switches (7 single, 4 double), 2 mood controllers, 1 double wire free switch, 6 plug in on/off, 3 plug in dimmer, 2 PIR, 2 LED, 1 300W Inline relay, 2 signal booster, 1 Energy Monitor and 1 very patient wife. Also Heatmiser's Neo, Ring Bell, Ring Camera, Nest Protect, Canary...
    #874
     AlexS says:

    AlexS
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    hmm not sure what was happening there- good that a reset sorted it. A reset will solve most issues like this. It is possible but unlikely that the memory was full.

    #909
     Tissy says:

    Tissy
    Participant

    In the new iPhone / iPad app, is timings etc being simplified ?

    It would be great from within one screen you can set a device, such as a dimmer to turn on at a certain time, set the brightness and then turn off again at a certain time without the need to set Sequences and Timers.

    Although I accept there is still a need for a SEQUENCE & TIMER approach, it would also be useful to provide simplicity.

    Also, will there be the addition of turning OFF at a certain hour.

    Currently, you can turn a device ON at dusk for example, but no option to turn of at 00:00 (midnight), only turning off after a set period has elapsed.

    Also an option to turn off at DAWN would be useful.

    Hope you don’t mind the feedback, but i think it will make the app more user friendly.

    #912
     AlexS says:

    AlexS
    Participant

    all feedback is very useful – thats what this forum is for thanks for the info.

    Could you not use a quick-timer (on each room page at the top)? this is what the quick timer was designed for to allow you to set single timers without having to use the sequences page. Just choose the device then set the time you want it to activate.

    In terms of turning a device off – at the moment you would just put a second entry in the sequence which is the off command. I dont think we have any plans to change this but i can ask.

    #913
     Tissy says:

    Tissy
    Participant

    The Quicktimer is useful for one off timing sequences as you say, but not really appropriate for a daily timer.

    I guess to summerise, the things I see missing (unless you tell me otherwise) are.

    Ability to turn OFF at a set hour, opposed to after a certain delay.
    Ability to turn OFF at Dawn

    These option have only come to light when I have set up a sequence for an external lantern.

    So for example, If i turned on at DUSK (which is a very useful feature), i could only turn of after a set period. If i turned off 6 hours later, initially this could be at midnight for example, but as the lighting up time became earlier, the lamp could be turning off at 2200hrs, which is too early. The ability to turn off at a set hour, would be beneficial in these circumstances as DUSK is a variable integer.

    Loving the products by the way <img src=” title=”Smile” /> These are something I have been looking forward too for a number of years.

    #914
     AndreWilley says:

    AndreWilley
    Participant

    Only guessing here as I don’t have my WiFiLink box yet…

    Could you not set up two separate Sequences? One event would turn the lights on at dusk, and the other would turn them off again at dawn?

    Andre

    #852
     kongomush says:

    kongomush
    Participant

    Came home yesterday from a few days away to find a nice big box full of Lightwave stock… really like the packaging BTW, very nice.
    Straight away I got stuck in to the install and I have to say the setup was amazingly simple. Having been an A/V installer for the last 6 years I’ve dealt with a lot of automation products and none of them have worked like this did out of the box…. well done to all involved in designing this kit.

    Anyway, back to the sequences and timers. I had a chance to set up some simple sequences and do some testing and the first thing that I’d love to have is the ability to edit the sequence as opposed to deleting it and redoing it all. I found that after I had set up a "Night" sequence which would switch off all the lights and some of the sockets in the house I had forgotten one of the lights. I had to relearn the entire sequence to include the forgotten light.

    Cheers,

    Kongo

    #855
     kongomush says:

    kongomush
    Participant

    One more thought…. how easy would it be to assign a sequence to one of the mood buttons on the master switch? For example, a master switch beside the bed with mood button 3 assigned to a "night time" sequence which shuts off all the lights and certain sockets.

    ….. maybe the PIR could trigger a sequence too???

    #862
     AlexS says:

    AlexS
    Participant

    Tissy

    Hmm… im a little confused – might be misinterpreting what you mean but as far as i am concerned you can defiantly already do those things that you state.

    To turn a device on a a set time you would create an entry in a sequence OR use a quick timer. To then turn it off at a set time you would create a new entry and set it to go off. You can def. set a receiver to come on and dusk and off at dawn (using the 2 separate entries) that is what we intended when we designed it. I think this is also what Andre is referring to (have you ordered a wifi link yet andre btw? cant remember if i need to get some bits to you?)

    Kongomush

    That you very much for the complements – that really means a lot to us at this early stage as we are working very hard to get the right offering and feedback really helps. Yes i agree it is very annoying not being able to edit the sequences – we are aware of this and this is something that will get addressed as a fix in coming. app updates

    In terms of sequences being triggered by mood switch or pir – watch this space; the ability to use transmitters as ‘triggers’ for timers/sequences etc. is on the way next couple of months (as soon as we finish the software tweeks!)

    #864
     kongomush says:

    kongomush
    Participant

    Music to my ears Alex…, looking forward to the updates, cheers.

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