LightwaceRF alternatives

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  • #24987
     mark_h says:

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    Before I get in too deep with lighwaverf, I am wondering if there are any genuine alternatives for remote controlled light-switches that don’t need a neutral wire?

    Philips hue is no good for me because many of my light fittings contain 3 or more bulbs.

    #24988
     h3mp says:

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    fibaro?

    #24989
     mark_h says:

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    Looks light a nightmare to retrofit and not sure if it will need a neutrral at the swiitch.

    My ideal kit would be something that can just on/off the lights like a relay and isn’t munch thicker than a regular manual switch for ease of retrofit.
    Sounds like it doesn’t yet exist!

    #24990
     h3mp says:

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    Then look at ENERGENIE MIHOME?

    #24991
     mark_h says:

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    It will only work with dimmable bulbs.

    #24992
     mark_h says:

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    So it seems I have another requirement – must be able to switch on/off all bulbs that a standard manual switch can.

    #24993
     h3mp says:

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    if you do not have a neutral, then you need to get your power parasitically by letting a little trickle through the bulb.
    This is why you can only ever use the type of bulbs that allow a trickle to occur..

    #24994
     mark_h says:

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    Would it not be possible for the device to consume that power, but have a relay to open/close the contacts like a regular switch?
    Hmm..probably not..so it would need to be a battery powered switch then.

    #24995
     mark_h says:

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    Is it feasible to re-wire a single light fitting to provide a neutral at the switch?

    #24996
     h3mp says:

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    one option is to design a switch that has an internal battery to supply the receiver electronics when the switch is off (maybe a rechargeable, that charges when lights are on) – i’m not sure how practical this could be in reality.

    to have a neutral at the switch means a re-wire – needs an extra core to supply the neutral..

    #24997
     mark_h says:

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    to have a neutral at the switch means a re-wire – needs an extra core to supply the neutral..

    Thanks for the info!
    Can the re-wre be done between the ceiling rose and the switch for a single fitting?
    Or does it need the entire lighting circuit to be wired differently?

    #24998
     h3mp says:

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    yes, most ceiling roses will have the main lighting ring/radial at them, so the neutral will be up there….

    …lightwave switches don’t have a neutral connector on them to use though..

    #24999
     mark_h says:

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    Hmm – true, it would open up other options though I suppose.

    #25000
     mark_h says:

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    Looks like energenie only have single gang switches :-(

    #25001
     mark_h says:

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    And the red led looks so naff

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