Is This Lightwave RF in Disguise

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  • #6539
     nevetsecirp says:

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    Hi Folks, I have just spotted this website and it looks like very similar to the LightwaveRF Stuff, Without much investigation the WiFi Link looks identical
    http://www.coco-technology.com/en/home/, if it is they have a lot more products available, would they be compatible? Has anyone got any clues

    LWRF light switches in several rooms, WIFI Link, Energy Monitor, Socket x3 and multiple On/Off adapters. PIR controlling lights and doorbell utilising light feature. TRV's for heating. Relays for garden and outside lamps Linked with Amazon Alexa via a dot
    #6541
     nevetsecirp says:

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    I believe it definitely has LightwaveRF as its base, I have just created an account using my normal web log, and it has picked up my rooms and settings stored on the LightwaveRF servers http://www.coco-technology.com/en/page/internet-control-station/

    Interested in opinions

    LWRF light switches in several rooms, WIFI Link, Energy Monitor, Socket x3 and multiple On/Off adapters. PIR controlling lights and doorbell utilising light feature. TRV's for heating. Relays for garden and outside lamps Linked with Amazon Alexa via a dot
    #6542
     Node Zero says:

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    Bloody marvelous Steven, it also looks like their android app is what has been shown in screenshots on Lightwave’s web page, cant seem to download my data on the app though or is that because you lot are frantically trying to do the same thing! lol. You can however start over and create new rooms and devices. Very interesting, thank you.

    #6543
     Chris says:

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    If you look at the app in the iTunes app store it was developed by JSJS Designs (along with a similar app for KlikAan KlikUit). The product itself looks very similar to Homeeasy. All of these technologies run on similar frequency ranges (433.92Mhz) but whether it is possible to pair one with the other is unknown. The actual protocol exchanged over the frequency could be distinctly different.

    It could be that JSJS Designs have developed the control system for these other products. They had a hand in a couple of the Homeeasy products in their early days (the Ultimate remote and the GSM interface I believe). Personally I doubt they are directly interchangeable. As a shareholder in JSJS Designs, if they were selling their product through other channels and brands, they would want to publicise that to their shareholders (as it would be an ongoing income stream) and I haven’t seen any evidence of this. I suspect this is more a case of development time/code being contracted out.

    Reading the recent posts (about the Android app), it could be that the UDP protocol is the same irrespective of the RF protocol at the back end. If this is the case, this might be a way to get the new LightwaveRF app without actually waiting for it! Unfortunately this doesn’t appear to be the case on the iOS app store :-(

    Chris Mills Founder and Editor - LightwaveRF Community http://cpmills.com/ http://lightwaverfcommunity.org.uk
    #6544
     Node Zero says:

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    Yes it totally works! In the android app i have duplicated my first room and the first device, paired them up and hey presto- control. I then used the all off button and it turned off all the devices in that room without them being set up yet. The download database button keeps on freezing the app but I’m sure I’d be to go around and re-pair all my devices, so it looks like you have discovered a new android app! On a separate note I spoke to LW today who said their android app was in final beta testing and to be released imminently (yawn) so this is what we will be getting, probably. Also they said late summer for the iphone version and heating controls

    #6545
     Chris says:

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    Does the app use the same concept of room number and device number? If not, it might be worth playing safe and clearing the memory of paired devices or unpairing your existing app first. If the app isn’t using exactly the same room and device numbers for the devices you are pairing, you may end up using too many ‘slots’ on the dimmers and having wrong devices switch on/off in response to actions in the app.

    Chris Mills Founder and Editor - LightwaveRF Community http://cpmills.com/ http://lightwaverfcommunity.org.uk
    #6546
     Node Zero says:

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    In fact you do not need to re-pair devices- if you keep them in the same order you just press connect and they work

    #6547
     Node Zero says:

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    I haven’t had to re pair my phone with the wifi link like you do when you add a new controller so i assume that the wifi link assumes im using the old app.

    #6552
     Justin says:

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    I’ve just downloaded onto my nexus 7. Logged on to my account, all settings restored and I’m finally able to set the cost per unit for the energy meter!

    Looks to be some nice features in there, eg Home and away buttons on home screen. A nice easy way to set an All off command.

    Wifi link, plug in adapter's, wall and mood switches. Heating controls sometime?? We'll see. Lol
    #6562
     Justin says:

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    Here’s the link

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.coco.lightwaverf&feature=search_result&hl=en_GB

    Only 1- 5 installs so far, so this is a very new app.

    Wifi link, plug in adapter's, wall and mood switches. Heating controls sometime?? We'll see. Lol
    #6576
     Chris says:

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    Only 1- 5 installs so far, so this is a very new app.

    I think that’s probably you lot! (not me, I’m an Apple Fanbois!) It will probably be 50 downloads tomorrow!

    Chris Mills Founder and Editor - LightwaveRF Community http://cpmills.com/ http://lightwaverfcommunity.org.uk
    #6599
     nevetsecirp says:

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    Has anyone looked into the Hardware that they are advertising yet, I believe some of it looks identical eg the WiFi Link, the dawn till dusk, some of the relays. If the app is working and the main web page is the same as LightwaveRF surely it is working off the same protocols etc.

    LWRF light switches in several rooms, WIFI Link, Energy Monitor, Socket x3 and multiple On/Off adapters. PIR controlling lights and doorbell utilising light feature. TRV's for heating. Relays for garden and outside lamps Linked with Amazon Alexa via a dot
    #6600
     Chris says:

    Chris
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    I suspect the network (UDP) protocol is the same (or the app wouldn’t work) but there is no guarantee that the RF protocol is the same.

    The TMT-502 remote control talks about devices with ‘code wheels’ which reminds me of early Homeeasy to me. There is definitely some similarities, but that could just be down to using the same Chinese manufacturer to build the hardware and enclosures. I suspect JSJS Designs were behind the ICS-1000 (in the video you can even see the LightwaveRF logo) but this doesn’t mean it is completely compatible.

    If you go to the manuals section on the website and click the “Older Models” link, it takes you to a page with a dodgy scanned copy of a KlikAan KlikUit manual (I suspect these two technologies are identical) and the devices all have two code wheels, just like the early Homeeasy stuff. I would be prepared to bet money that this is the same as Homeeasy.

    I believe it was while working on the Homeeasy stuff that JSJS Designs realized that they could probably do better and developed LightwaveRF.

    Besides, the only products which actually look interesting (apart from the app of course), is the external PIR. Everything else requires European sockets or there is already an equivalent or better available under the LightwaveRF brand. If there were heating controls available, that might be a different story. Can anyone who has downloaded the new Android app confirm whether there appears to be any heating controls in it? I think others have said it is this which is delaying the roll out here.

    Chris Mills Founder and Editor - LightwaveRF Community http://cpmills.com/ http://lightwaverfcommunity.org.uk
    #6601
     forrest51 says:

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    And here’s another from Scandanavia …. http://www.nexa.se/NEXA-Gateway-2.htm (!)

    #6602
     nevetsecirp says:

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    And their catalogue seems to imply these products are available in the UK http://www.nexa.se/res/pdf/NEXA-Catalogue-2012-Print.pdf
    http://www.nexa.se/System-Nexa-2.htm in clas olson stores, definately looks like a rebadging of the lightwaverf stuff, so either the UK Lightwaverf is spreading through europe or Lightwave RF.co.uk is just part of a bigger thing?

    LWRF light switches in several rooms, WIFI Link, Energy Monitor, Socket x3 and multiple On/Off adapters. PIR controlling lights and doorbell utilising light feature. TRV's for heating. Relays for garden and outside lamps Linked with Amazon Alexa via a dot
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