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  • #24962
     sarren says:

    sarren
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    Hi – I’ve just installed a Gen2 Link Plus, Gen2 socket and 3 Gen1 in-line relays to control the blinds.

    All seems ok in the LWRF app and works fine, however when I try to get them to work in Alexa, only the Gen2 sockets are detected by Alexa. I’ve tried resetting Alexa, resetting the LinkPlus, uninstalling and reinstalling the skill in Alexa, but still none of the Gen1 devices are detected in Alexa.

    Anyone else have the same problem getting Alexa to detect the Gen1 devices through LinkPlus? Or any advice on how to get this working as I was looking forward to using Alexa to control the blinds.

    Cheers

    #24963
     h3mp says:

    h3mp
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    i’ve literally just removed the gen1 stuff from my gen2 app (as it became a pain running a gen1 and gen2 setup in parallel)

    but, this certainly was working for me a week ago – I had a gen1 relay working under the gen2 app/link and it showed up in alexa.

    in the amazon app, when you press “discover devices” you only have the socket appear then? nothing else at all?

    #24964
     sarren says:

    sarren
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    Correct. The Gen1 inline relays work fine in the LW app (except dusk and dawn automation – wrong times and doesn’t actually open/close, but works fine if I use a specific time) but Alexa doesn’t “discover” them. I assume they are picked up from the LW account and don’t physically need pairing hence why I was confused as I’ve read other people have been able to use Gen1 products with Alexa.

    #24965
     h3mp says:

    h3mp
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    yes – the “discovery” just pulls the devices from your lightwave account
    maybe the device hasn’t sync’d to your account and is only on the phone – do you have a 2nd phone/table where you can install the gen2 app and check the devices are actually sync’d with lightwave?

    #24968
     sarren says:

    sarren
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    Thanks for the advice. The relays are on the LW app on every phone/tablet I have, but not on Alexa !?! I’ve just installed another 2 relays for two other blinds in a different room and they come up in the app but not detected on the Alexa app.

    Time to try and get some help from LW support…

    #24971
     Node Zero says:

    Node Zero
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    Are you absolutely sure you have enabled the Linkplus skill in Alexa as you may have enabled the skill for G1 users?

    #24972
     sarren says:

    sarren
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    That’s what I’ve done (see screenshot). I even disabled skill and re-enabled the Linkplus skill to try reconnecting to Linkplus but still no Gen1 relays

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    #24975
     h3mp says:

    h3mp
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    just a thought…
    I had my relays set up as plug sockets in lightwave as i only wanted on/off.
    maybe alexa doesn’t understand the relay type.
    try adding a new gen1 plug socket, pair that with the relay too – see if it magically appears – might explain the problem if it does.

    #24977
     sarren says:

    sarren
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    Great – will try that when I get home. My wife call LW but didn’t fully understand what they were suggesting, so I’ll have to call them next week if your idea doesn’t work.

    Cheers

    #25029
     sarren says:

    sarren
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    After going around the houses a bit with LIghtwave customer services and Alexa customer services, I’ve been told that it is an Alexa issue and there have been many complaints about the LightwaveRF Link Plus skill in Alexa not detecting Gen 1 products. They state the engineers are working on this but no idea when this will be resolved. A bit disappointing as I know many people have got Gen 1 devices to work, but hopefully they will resolve this soon!

    #25569
     TheAndyMac says:

    TheAndyMac
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    @sarren, has this been fixed now? Looking at getting a Gen2 hub to control my Gen1 system with Black Friday pricing – to future proof my system and hoping that the web app is really fully featured and better maintained than the web app for Gen1.

    #25571
     h3mp says:

    h3mp
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    gen1 devices are not handled correctly by the gen2 software still.
    the main button in the software is still a toggle (press once for on, press again for off) – this is just barking mad for gen1 as the system doesn’t know what state the device is currently in, so it’s 50/50 always whether you need to press once or twice to do what you need!

    #25572
     miken says:

    miken
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    Thanks for that info, h3mp.
    I was just about to get a Link Plus in the Black Friday sale, but not sure now, as I have an extensive range of Gen 1 dimmers, relays, mood switches etc.

    But then I started thinking. As there is no feedback from Gen 1 kit anyway, is this much of a difference compared to the Gen 1 app in terms of manual operation (switch a light off, for example)? Surely, line of sight is needed for reliable operation whether it be an ON/OFF button or a single button toggle? For example, I have some outside lights on a timer (ON and OFF) but sometimes want to turn them off early. This sometimes takes more than one stab at the OFF button for it to take, wouldn’t this simply now be a case of pressing the toggle button several times until I see the lights go off?

    Or am I missing something?

    #25573
     h3mp says:

    h3mp
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    As long as you are prepared to have a ‘smart’ light system, where you need to have line of sight to your devices, or put up with the multiple presses to change state- then sure yes, it all does work.

    Fundamental difference in gen1 app is that each device has a separate on and off button, you just poke the action you require.

    It also breaks alexa support because if you ask it to turn a light on, but alexa already thinks it is on (due to incorrect feedback from lightwave) then alexa doesn’t actually switch it on. so if you are setting up a routine in alexa such as “when i say Banana, turn lounge light on” the workaround is to set two actions, first an off, then an on immediately afterwards.

    It is just a bit of a mess.

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